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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:21 pm
На днях познакомился с британцем, прослужил 15 лет в Бра 10 лет в артилерии и 5 лет в логистике
Его медальки.
фотку мужика выкладывать не буду.
В данной теме буду постить мой чат с ним.
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Q -Fine, thanx...i'm reenactor i and my friends are playing airsoft and trying to learn traditions of british army=) Can u share some information?
A - well, i could answer any questions you have! I served 16 years in the Artillery and then the logistic corps.
Q - wow...amazing! great respect for you job! i have such question...are marines, troopers, privates,rangers, l-cp, cpl, sergeants, colour Sergeants, wo2, wo1, issued pistols?
If no, can they buy pistols by themselves?
A - No soldiers can buy weapons of any kind. We are issued with them from armouries. All ranks are issued with the SA80 except officers, who can select Browning 9mm.
Q - As well does British squaddie wear knee pads with dpm trousers? if yes how do they wear them? under trousers or on the trousers? and when are they wearing knee pads?
A -We don't wear knee pads! Unless we are performing riot duties.
Q - How many mags does squaddie usually take with him? and how many grenades? does squaddie issued with smoke grenades?
A - Infantry are issued with 8 mags, depending on the nature of their mission. All others are issued with 4. Mags hold 30 rounds.
Grenades are issued to infantry, but i don't know how many/
Q- Does every squaddie equiped with marconi bowman?
A- Not every, just the signaller of each 'brick'.
Q - i mean PRR, not the PRC 352
A-PRC 351/2 have been phased out now, I think. I never used Bowman, it came in as I was leaving.
Q- =))) i see, what does mean Gucci for armymen?
A -Ha ha ha ha!
"Gucci" is used to describe any piece of equipment the we think is clever, useful or otherwise cool.
Q- =))Thanx....Can u write down some "gucci" tips?
A -Sure. Never eat yellow snow!
Q- for what purpose soldiers adding to their helmets piece of black rubber band?
A - Ah! When we wear respirators and NBC kit, the helmet straps dont fit on your chin, so the band is used to keep your helmet on in NBC situations.
.Q -usefull tip=) can u look through this kit http://vkontakte.ru/note7875193_9643316
Is there any thing which i need to add?
список -
Smock
Top Left Button Pocket (personal aid pocket)
1 or 2x Emergency Care Bandages (ECB) or First Field Dressings (FFD) (you'll get issued a second on ops, or nick one). If you don't have ECB, carry 2 x elasticised bandages with you as well (somewhere), as these are a far more effective way of applying FFD and direct pressure.
Whistle, looped to buttonhole of top flap
Lip Balm
EARs
Waterproof Matches
Combat Application Tourniquet (CAT).
Morphine autoject, in protective "coffin".
Battlefield Casualty Drills Aide Memoire (Army Code 71638).
Under the top flap, mark your Surname, Zap Number and Blood Group.
Top Right Button Pocket (admin pocket)
Waterproof Notebook
Lots and lots of pencils
Cam cream
Bic Lighter
Left Zip Pocket
Space for empty mags
Right Zip Pocket
Compass (on lanyard)
Racing Spoon
Lighter
TAMs
Bottom Left Button Pocket
Paracord
Trousers
Left Hip Pocket
Left Glove
Right Hip Pocket
Knife (on lanyard)
Right Glove
Left Map Pocket
Nyrex
Map (in mapcase)
Empty Ammo Bag with biscuits, sweets and chocolate in
Right Map Pocket
Map (in mapcase) escape map+ escape button compass
Webbing (from left to right)
Double Ammo 6 mags
Speed loader in between pouches( real)
Water Pouch
Brew Kit
Mess tins with some food and tea food, must be ready to eat
water purnifire
Utility Pouch
Cylumes
Bush Hat or wooly hat
Comms cord on reel
Grenades
loader
spare ammo
2nd radio
hexamine stove
Water pouch
Waterbottle
Metal Mug
Puritabs
hexamine fuel
Double Ammo
Double Ammo 6 mags
Left Side daysack pouch
Sleeping Bag in Bivi bag
Spare 95 trouserrs
Spare 95 Shirt
Spare Socks x 4
right side daysack pouch
Waterproof Suit
NBC suit
Gaiters
escape Daysack attached to the top of field air support pack with yoke
Softy
Bivi building kit
Rations
2nd Waterbottle
Entrenching tool
First aid kit
Soft Hat
spare socks
Main Compartment Bergen
Space for section kit
moscito net
S10 respirator (if not worn)
Moscito net
Rations
Spare Boots
Sniper tape
Bergen Top FlapBoot cleaning kit
rifle cleaning kit
Wash Kit
Notes
All kit is waterproofed
Roll mat attached to outside of bergen
Kevlar attaches to right yoke strap on a '58 pattern clip
There is a length of bungy cord over the rear three pouches on the webbing and a utility strap on the inside.
There is elastic webbing straps all over the webbing on top of pouches, on the yoke and on the straps as well as all over the daysack, on the smock arms, and on both my pairs of field trousers for attachment of scrim.
a -Water "Purifier" is the correct spellin.
S10 should always be on left side of webbing belt, not in your bergan. You have 10 second to put it on in an NBC alarm, you won't make it if it's in your bergan.
Your list is very comprehensive, but I would say that few soldier actually carry so much kit in their Smock pockets because it gets in the way when your are shooting in the prone position. FFD has its own pocket on the left arm.
Most of us found the zip pockets more useful for carrying stuff, esp. maps.
Everyone has thier own way though, just remember that your webbing has to carry all you need if you get 'bugged out' and have to leave everything else. I food, ammo, warm kit, NBC. NBC clothes are amazingly warm and waterproof, if you need to use them for that.
I see you picked up a lot of terminology. Esp 'racing spoon'! hahaha!
Q- Is that commonly in the British army to mark own weapon (SA80) with the number? And for which purpose is that for?
A -Yes, all armouries independently number the rifles to assist in cataloguing. Every soldier is responsible for his "Gat" and the quartermaster inspects regularly. This way he knows who to bollock for "grotty Gat admin"
Q -Does British soldiers like to wear gloves? if yes what kind of gloves?
A - Sure, they are essential. We used to have black leather gloves with thick pads on the knuckles, I liked them. Combat 95 gloves are thinner and look rather feminine!
Q- =)))got that..what about insignia does squaddie like or doesn't like to wear them? are they issued or soldiers buying them for their own money? and is that commonly to use name tabs?
A - We are only allowed to wear insignia sanctioned by the brigade. They are part of uniform and so we must all wear then same ones in the same place, for example, the Desert Rats all have the same badge. Again, they are issued.
Q - i mean is that necessary to wear them on the uniform?
A - If you are part of a regiment or brigade that has special insignia, then you must wear it.
Q - How is right to wear combat body armour? over the smock or under the smock?
A - It depends on the Armour, but usually under the smock. Its horrible stuff to wear, heavy and sweaty, Most squaddies buy a special t-shirt, an american brand, to wear under it as it's better than the issues t shirt.
Q - What does soldier buy from food while on the go? What is better not to eat in the rat packs?
A - Well, the rat packs can be improved with spices, most of us took little bottles of Tabasco sauce. The hard tack bran biscuits usually dont get eaten, and sometimes we are told not to eat the chocolate because it's too old. Rations are often kept for up to 10 years, and you get issued the oldest first.
If you are lucky enough to get Arctic rations, wich are freeze dried meals of beef, porck potatoes, beans etc, the are much tastier and more filling, but i only got those a couple of times.
Q -who usually issued with chest rig?
who with P.L.C.E
and who gets an assault vest?
A- Sure, PLCE is standard and it works well enough, But Cot-vests and chest rigs are better for driving vehicles. Tankies wear them a lot. Also, in Northern Ire;land we all wear chest rigs. I used a clip and strap from 58 pattern webbing and sewed it onto the right shoulder strap and slung my rifle from it, that ways it was constantly in a ready position!
Q- Does squaddies buying some stuff for their own money? If yes? what kind of stuff?
What about web-tex manufacture? Is anyone use that sh*t?
A- Web-tex is for sissies....
Issue sleeping bags p58 are big, bulky and heavy, so we buy 'softy' sleeping bags. I still have one!
Otherwise, there is not much else we buy, Combat 95 kit is good enough for most things.
Его медальки.
фотку мужика выкладывать не буду.
В данной теме буду постить мой чат с ним.
В данной теме ничего не писать!!!! Для обсуждения используйте другую тему. Флуд будет стёрт!!
Q -Fine, thanx...i'm reenactor i and my friends are playing airsoft and trying to learn traditions of british army=) Can u share some information?
A - well, i could answer any questions you have! I served 16 years in the Artillery and then the logistic corps.
Q - wow...amazing! great respect for you job! i have such question...are marines, troopers, privates,rangers, l-cp, cpl, sergeants, colour Sergeants, wo2, wo1, issued pistols?
If no, can they buy pistols by themselves?
A - No soldiers can buy weapons of any kind. We are issued with them from armouries. All ranks are issued with the SA80 except officers, who can select Browning 9mm.
Q - As well does British squaddie wear knee pads with dpm trousers? if yes how do they wear them? under trousers or on the trousers? and when are they wearing knee pads?
A -We don't wear knee pads! Unless we are performing riot duties.
Q - How many mags does squaddie usually take with him? and how many grenades? does squaddie issued with smoke grenades?
A - Infantry are issued with 8 mags, depending on the nature of their mission. All others are issued with 4. Mags hold 30 rounds.
Grenades are issued to infantry, but i don't know how many/
Q- Does every squaddie equiped with marconi bowman?
A- Not every, just the signaller of each 'brick'.
Q - i mean PRR, not the PRC 352
A-PRC 351/2 have been phased out now, I think. I never used Bowman, it came in as I was leaving.
Q- =))) i see, what does mean Gucci for armymen?
A -Ha ha ha ha!
"Gucci" is used to describe any piece of equipment the we think is clever, useful or otherwise cool.
Q- =))Thanx....Can u write down some "gucci" tips?
A -Sure. Never eat yellow snow!
Q- for what purpose soldiers adding to their helmets piece of black rubber band?
A - Ah! When we wear respirators and NBC kit, the helmet straps dont fit on your chin, so the band is used to keep your helmet on in NBC situations.
.Q -usefull tip=) can u look through this kit http://vkontakte.ru/note7875193_9643316
Is there any thing which i need to add?
список -
Smock
Top Left Button Pocket (personal aid pocket)
1 or 2x Emergency Care Bandages (ECB) or First Field Dressings (FFD) (you'll get issued a second on ops, or nick one). If you don't have ECB, carry 2 x elasticised bandages with you as well (somewhere), as these are a far more effective way of applying FFD and direct pressure.
Whistle, looped to buttonhole of top flap
Lip Balm
EARs
Waterproof Matches
Combat Application Tourniquet (CAT).
Morphine autoject, in protective "coffin".
Battlefield Casualty Drills Aide Memoire (Army Code 71638).
Under the top flap, mark your Surname, Zap Number and Blood Group.
Top Right Button Pocket (admin pocket)
Waterproof Notebook
Lots and lots of pencils
Cam cream
Bic Lighter
Left Zip Pocket
Space for empty mags
Right Zip Pocket
Compass (on lanyard)
Racing Spoon
Lighter
TAMs
Bottom Left Button Pocket
Paracord
Trousers
Left Hip Pocket
Left Glove
Right Hip Pocket
Knife (on lanyard)
Right Glove
Left Map Pocket
Nyrex
Map (in mapcase)
Empty Ammo Bag with biscuits, sweets and chocolate in
Right Map Pocket
Map (in mapcase) escape map+ escape button compass
Webbing (from left to right)
Double Ammo 6 mags
Speed loader in between pouches( real)
Water Pouch
Brew Kit
Mess tins with some food and tea food, must be ready to eat
water purnifire
Utility Pouch
Cylumes
Bush Hat or wooly hat
Comms cord on reel
Grenades
loader
spare ammo
2nd radio
hexamine stove
Water pouch
Waterbottle
Metal Mug
Puritabs
hexamine fuel
Double Ammo
Double Ammo 6 mags
Left Side daysack pouch
Sleeping Bag in Bivi bag
Spare 95 trouserrs
Spare 95 Shirt
Spare Socks x 4
right side daysack pouch
Waterproof Suit
NBC suit
Gaiters
escape Daysack attached to the top of field air support pack with yoke
Softy
Bivi building kit
Rations
2nd Waterbottle
Entrenching tool
First aid kit
Soft Hat
spare socks
Main Compartment Bergen
Space for section kit
moscito net
S10 respirator (if not worn)
Moscito net
Rations
Spare Boots
Sniper tape
Bergen Top FlapBoot cleaning kit
rifle cleaning kit
Wash Kit
Notes
All kit is waterproofed
Roll mat attached to outside of bergen
Kevlar attaches to right yoke strap on a '58 pattern clip
There is a length of bungy cord over the rear three pouches on the webbing and a utility strap on the inside.
There is elastic webbing straps all over the webbing on top of pouches, on the yoke and on the straps as well as all over the daysack, on the smock arms, and on both my pairs of field trousers for attachment of scrim.
a -Water "Purifier" is the correct spellin.
S10 should always be on left side of webbing belt, not in your bergan. You have 10 second to put it on in an NBC alarm, you won't make it if it's in your bergan.
Your list is very comprehensive, but I would say that few soldier actually carry so much kit in their Smock pockets because it gets in the way when your are shooting in the prone position. FFD has its own pocket on the left arm.
Most of us found the zip pockets more useful for carrying stuff, esp. maps.
Everyone has thier own way though, just remember that your webbing has to carry all you need if you get 'bugged out' and have to leave everything else. I food, ammo, warm kit, NBC. NBC clothes are amazingly warm and waterproof, if you need to use them for that.
I see you picked up a lot of terminology. Esp 'racing spoon'! hahaha!
Q- Is that commonly in the British army to mark own weapon (SA80) with the number? And for which purpose is that for?
A -Yes, all armouries independently number the rifles to assist in cataloguing. Every soldier is responsible for his "Gat" and the quartermaster inspects regularly. This way he knows who to bollock for "grotty Gat admin"
Q -Does British soldiers like to wear gloves? if yes what kind of gloves?
A - Sure, they are essential. We used to have black leather gloves with thick pads on the knuckles, I liked them. Combat 95 gloves are thinner and look rather feminine!
Q- =)))got that..what about insignia does squaddie like or doesn't like to wear them? are they issued or soldiers buying them for their own money? and is that commonly to use name tabs?
A - We are only allowed to wear insignia sanctioned by the brigade. They are part of uniform and so we must all wear then same ones in the same place, for example, the Desert Rats all have the same badge. Again, they are issued.
Q - i mean is that necessary to wear them on the uniform?
A - If you are part of a regiment or brigade that has special insignia, then you must wear it.
Q - How is right to wear combat body armour? over the smock or under the smock?
A - It depends on the Armour, but usually under the smock. Its horrible stuff to wear, heavy and sweaty, Most squaddies buy a special t-shirt, an american brand, to wear under it as it's better than the issues t shirt.
Q - What does soldier buy from food while on the go? What is better not to eat in the rat packs?
A - Well, the rat packs can be improved with spices, most of us took little bottles of Tabasco sauce. The hard tack bran biscuits usually dont get eaten, and sometimes we are told not to eat the chocolate because it's too old. Rations are often kept for up to 10 years, and you get issued the oldest first.
If you are lucky enough to get Arctic rations, wich are freeze dried meals of beef, porck potatoes, beans etc, the are much tastier and more filling, but i only got those a couple of times.
Q -who usually issued with chest rig?
who with P.L.C.E
and who gets an assault vest?
A- Sure, PLCE is standard and it works well enough, But Cot-vests and chest rigs are better for driving vehicles. Tankies wear them a lot. Also, in Northern Ire;land we all wear chest rigs. I used a clip and strap from 58 pattern webbing and sewed it onto the right shoulder strap and slung my rifle from it, that ways it was constantly in a ready position!
Q- Does squaddies buying some stuff for their own money? If yes? what kind of stuff?
What about web-tex manufacture? Is anyone use that sh*t?
A- Web-tex is for sissies....
Issue sleeping bags p58 are big, bulky and heavy, so we buy 'softy' sleeping bags. I still have one!
Otherwise, there is not much else we buy, Combat 95 kit is good enough for most things.